What Does the Theology of the Body Have to Do with Mental Health?

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Which is more important to your health, your mind or your body? How you or your health care provider answers that question has real implications for your well-being.

Most of us treat the body and mind as two separate entities, reaching for a pill for physical pain and going to therapy for emotional struggles. Inevitably, this divide leaves us feeling fragmented and poorly served by modern medicine.

But the Catholic Church has long insisted that body and mind are not competing entities, but are profoundly united. Spirit and matter “are not two natures united, but rather their union forms a single nature” (Catechism #365).

It’s a radically countercultural doctrine. For centuries, influential thinkers have pulled this unity apart. On one side, Plato and René Descartes treated the body as a sort of prison for the mind; early pioneers of psychology like Freud and Skinner followed suit by largely ignoring the body’s role in mental health. On the other side, materialist philosophers claimed that the human being is nothing more than a complex biological machine—a view that resurfaced when the discovery of psychiatric medications led many modern experts to reduce mental health to “chemical imbalances” in the brain.

In recent decades, modern science has come to recognize that mind and body are a single, deeply connected system. The Catholic Church has known this for centuries, and in the writings of Pope John Paul II, now known as the Theology of the Body, that ancient truth has been developed into a comprehensive framework for understanding the human person.

The Theology of the Body is foundational to the way the pastoral counselors at CatholicCounselors.com approach pastoral therapy. Here’s what it teaches and why it matters for your mental health.

A Roadmap for Human Wellness

When St. John Paul II became pope in 1978, he brought with him a manuscript he had been developing for years on what it means to be a human person. His starting point, as Dr. Popcak describes on the More2Life radio show, was this: if we took everything God has given us—creation, Scripture, salvation history, all of it—what universal principles could we discover about living a more abundant life and having healthier, holier relationships?

The answer became a comprehensive vision of the human person: what it means to be human, how we are wired for mental and emotional flourishing, and how we relate to one another. This vision became known as the Theology of the Body, and several of its insights speak directly to mental health.

Your Body is Speaking. Are You Listening?

One of TOB’s central claims is that our bodies are part of how God communicates his design for us. As Lisa Popcak explains on the show, drawing on St. Thomas Aquinas, God speaks to us through every cell of our bodies. Aquinas called this the Book of Nature—the idea that how God designed us, body, mind, and spirit, reveals his plan for how we are meant to live and relate to one another.

“Theology of the Body reminds us that biology is theology,” Dr. Popcak explains. “By prayerfully reflecting on the way God built our bodies and brains, we can discern important insights about what it takes to live a healthy, holy life.”

The human body offers numerous examples of this principle at work.

  • The face. The human face has roughly 43 muscles dedicated almost entirely to emotional expression—far more than almost any other animal. Humans are also unique among primates in having visible whites of the eyes, which allows others to track exactly where we are looking and what we are paying attention to. We are, literally, built to be
     “read” and to “read” others. The body reveals that we are made for mutual knowing.
  • Mirror neurons. God wired the human brain with mirror neurons—cells that fire when we observe another person’s emotional state, producing a similar feeling in ourselves. This is the neurological basis for empathy. We are designed not merely to observe others’ inner lives, but to share them.
  • Touch. Physical touch—a hand on a shoulder, a long hug from someone you trust—triggers the release of oxytocin, a hormone that reduces cortisol, lowers heart rate, and builds a sense of safety and trust. Research shows that holding someone’s hand during a stressful situation measurably reduces their physiological stress response. The body is designed to give and receive comfort through physical presence—another form of self-donation.
  • Secure attachment. When people feel securely connected to God and others, their nervous system operates in a calmer, more integrated state. The body’s social engagement system is literally activated by felt safety in relationship. Isolation, by contrast, keeps the nervous system in a low-grade state of vigilance and threat. This is why withdrawal from God and others doesn’t just feel painful—it physiologically disrupts our capacity to function well.
  • Anxiety. Brain science tells us that anxiety is not primarily a response to external problems, but acts as a warning signal that something is wrong in our connections to God and others. “Rather than being a direct response to problems,” Lisa Popcak explains, “anxiety is actually a sign that we feel disconnected from people—the people that God has placed in our life to support us. The key to regaining our peace is working to restore that sense of communion and connection.” When we feel anxious, the body is sending a message: go find safe, healthy people.

Physical symptoms like panic attacks, chronic tension, and persistent exhaustion follow the same logic. They are often the body making visible some dysfunction in the mind or spirit. Medication may help manage those symptoms, but lasting healing requires attending to the whole person.

We Are Wired for Communion

These five examples point toward one of TOB’s most practically important teachings: we are made for communion. Not just in the sense that other people are nice to have around, but in the deeper sense that we are literally strongest when connected to God and to one another—physically, neurologically, and spiritually designed to give and receive love.

As Dr. Popcak puts it, isolation doesn’t just leave us running low; it actively drains us. When problems cause us to withdraw from God and the people we love, our brains change in ways that make us feel powerless, overwhelmed, and alone.

This understanding that we are made for relationship shapes the Popcaks’ approach to specific problems. When a caller struggles with anxiety, for example, the conversation might move toward examining what connections in their life feel threatened or broken. Other times, when someone lacks the confidence to tackle a tough problem, the Popcaks urge the practice of receptivity, which Lisa explains as “the ability to listen to God in the moment so we’re not just relying on our own strength or our own instincts or even our own fears to guide us.”

Suffering is Not the End of the Story

Perhaps the deepest gift the Theology of the Body offers to people in pain is a way to understand their suffering.

As the Popcaks explain, every human story follows the pattern of the larger biblical story of God’s relationship with humanity.

  1. Chapter one is original man—who God created us to be before sin: “secure, whole, capable of loving and being loved totally without fear.”
  2. Chapter two is historical man—the wounded people we are now, “living in a fallen world, carrying the scars of sins committed against us and the sins and mistakes that we’ve made.”
  3. Chapter three is eschatological man—the people we are becoming, day by day, through God’s healing grace. Ultimately, we are destined to be fully restored and glorified in Christ.

The paschal mystery—Christ’s suffering, death, and Resurrection—blazed a path for us from chapter two to chapter three. Because Christ took on a human body, he did not suffer abstractly. He suffered physically and emotionally (body and mind): exhaustion, grief, betrayal, abandonment, and death. Human suffering does not have to be meaningless: God himself has walked this territory, and because he has, he can lead us through it.

“Even in the middle of difficult times,” Lisa says, “God wants to show us how to respond to what we’re going through in a way that helps us to become the people he created us to be, and to work for the good of those around us.”

It is tempting to think that our wounds, our struggles, and our bad habits define who we are. But the Theology of the Body insists otherwise.

“Our past may explain some things about us,” Dr. Popcak says, “but it’s grace that defines us.”

Body, Mind, and Spirit Working Together

Pastoral counseling rooted in the Theology of the Body doesn’t treat the body, mind, and spirit as separate departments. It understands them as interlocking dimensions of a single human experience. Tackling relational or personal problems means taking all three into account, and the Theology of the Body offers a framework for doing exactly that.

If you’d like to explore what that kind of integrated healing might look like in your own life, reach out to any of the pastoral counselors at CatholicCounselors.com.

To End the Chore Wars, Go Deeper Than Deciding Who Does What

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More than half of married adults say sharing the load of household work is very important to a successful marriage, according to a 2016 Pew Research survey. Yet nearly half of married couples say that responsibility for work around the house is split unevenly in their marriage.

Since chores are one of the leading causes of conflict in marriage, figuring out how to share the load matters. But as Dr. Greg Popcak points out, reducing conflict around chores is about more than balancing out how much each person does. It’s about something most couples have never talked about: emotional labor.

The 10 percent problem

“Doing the task is only about 10 percent of the actual task,” Dr. Popcak explained in a recent episode of his BeDADitudes podcast.

Think about what actually goes into getting something done. There’s the task itself — and then there’s everything that surrounds it: noticing the task needs doing, making a plan, gathering what’s needed, scheduling the time, following through, and making sure it stays done. That surrounding work is emotional labor.

In most households, emotional labor falls unevenly, with women usually (but not always) carrying most of the mental load. Often, the person doing the emotional labor can’t fully explain why they feel overburdened. They just know that even when their spouse “helps,” they’re still the one who had to notice, plan, and direct everything. In effect, that person has an extra job as the “general contractor” for the household.

“We’ve been socialized to think it’s one person’s responsibility to do the emotional labor,” Dr. Popcak said, “and the other person’s job to show up when told to do something. That’s really not the Christian view of household labor.”

More than checking boxes

Christian family life calls every member of the household — not just one person — to practice prompt, generous, consistent, and cheerful attention to each other’s needs. (Readers familiar with Dr. Greg and Lisa Popcak’s Liturgy of Domestic Church Life will recognize this as one of twelve foundational practices for a healthy, holy family.)

The goal is to really “show up” for one another — cluing in to what the household and the people in it actually need, and contributing to that without waiting to be asked. Waiting to be told what to do, staying focused on our own corner of the house, or checking out after our assigned tasks are done amounts to the vice of sloth, Dr. Popcak said.

“Sloth isn’t necessarily laziness,” he said. “It’s the checking out. It’s not engaging with the things right in front of us.”

That inattention, however unintentional, damages relationships over time.

Building the Kingdom of God, One Sock at a Time

On the other hand, showing up, noticing what needs to be done, and then following through is a very real part of Christians’ responsibility to build the Kingdom of God.

“It’s not enough for the Christian person to be told what to do,” Dr. Popcak said. “The Christian person really needs to recognize what needs to be done and how I can use this moment to build the kingdom of God.”

Building the kingdom of God means doing what we can to cooperate with God’s grace and to undo the damage that sin does to our relationships with one another. “That’s what building the kingdom is because the kingdom is built on relationship,” Dr. Popcak said.

We tend to think of building the Kingdom of God in terms of “big” acts of charity. But noticing that the laundry needs putting away or that the dishes need to be done and then taking the lead on that is just as much part of building the Kingdom of God as bigger, more visible work like establishing hospitals and housing programs. The ultimate goal of both types of work is the same: sharing God’s love in a way that restores and strengthens relationships.

With that in mind, here are three simple ways to start shifting your family’s mindset around household work.

1. Scan before you sit

When you walk into a room, take five seconds to look around before settling in. Is there something small that needs doing? Maybe it’s a dirty cup on the counter or a child who looks like she’s had a rough afternoon.

You don’t have to act on everything you notice. The goal is simply to pay attention — to cultivate the habit of awareness rather than waiting for someone else to flag what needs doing.

2. Leave every room a little better than you found it

Dr. Popcak suggests adopting the old scouting principle of leaving your campsite better than you found it. Applied at home, that might mean wiping down the sink when you leave the bathroom, putting something away as you pass through the kitchen, or picking up what’s on the floor before you leave the bedroom.

Small contributions, made consistently by everyone in the household, add up to a home that doesn’t depend on any one person’s constant vigilance.

3. Leave every person a little better than you found them

The campsite principle applies to people, too.

“Am I leaving the people I encounter a little better than I found them?” Dr. Popcak asks. Offering to help, giving a hug, saying a word of encouragement all counts.

At this level, emotional labor is more than household management. When our attention to the household extends to the people in it, work stops being transactional and starts being relational — which is exactly what God intends it to be.

For more help building a stronger, more connected home, reach out to the pastoral counselors at CatholicCounselors.com. And if you’d like ongoing support for your family life, join the community of Catholic parents at CatholicHŌM, where you can also connect with Dr. Popcak and his team of expert pastoral counselors.

The Three Essential Steps of Real Reconciliation

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It was bad enough that Julie’s mother-in-law and sisters-in-law disrupted her wedding reception so horrendously that the family had to ask them to leave. But even worse, her mother-in-law kept her distance from Julie and her kids for eleven years. When she finally reached out, her “apology” was brief and breezy: “I’m sorry for everything — let’s just move forward.”

“That’s not a sincere apology to me,” Julie told Dr. Greg and Lisa Popcak during a recent episode of their More2Life radio show. Meanwhile, her husband felt caught in the middle, and the wound from that wedding day had never really closed.

Lisa Popcak could empathize with Julie’s situation. “One of the things that’s really difficult is when you feel that the Lord is asking you to get yourself in right order about forgiving someone, about fixing a relationship, and they don’t want to or they don’t have the insight to, then how do you handle it?” she said during the show opener. “How do you work through that with God? I know that had been a process for me. I’m in a really good place with it, but it was a walk that I had to walk with Jesus to get there.”

In last week’s post, the Popcaks explained the difference between forgiveness and reconciliation. This time, the Popcaks are going to help us understand what constitutes a genuine, sincere apology that opens the door to reconciliation. It’s a skill that’s useful whether you’re on the receiving end like Julie or you need to apologize for something yourself.

The Road to Reconciliation

Previously, the Popcaks explained the important difference between forgiveness and reconciliation. Forgiveness, they explained, is something one person can do alone — it’s the decision to surrender the desire to hurt someone for having hurt you. Even better, it is about getting to a place where you are able to want the offending person’s well-being.

Reconciliation, on the other hand, is about doing the work needed to repair and restore the relationship — and that requires more than two words (“I’m sorry”) and a change of subject.

When Dr. Greg helped Julie think through what she needed from her mother-in-law, he laid out three components that every meaningful apology requires.

First, a display of empathy. Somehow, the person who committed the offense needs to show that they understand how much they have hurt the other person. 

Second, a display of integrity. “In other words, ‘You had a right to expect more from me,’” Dr. Popcak explained. “It wasn’t just that you have too thin a skin, or you don’t have a sense of humor, or you just have too high expectations. It’s: You’re right, I was wrong. You had a right to expect more from me, and I blew it, and I’m sorry.”

Third, the offending person needs to offer to fix the harm they caused. This might involve making a concrete proposal about what they want to do to make things right, or it might involve asking the other person what would make it right for them.

“The person who committed the offense has to be willing to listen to what we need them to do to heal the wound they caused,” Lisa said. “Asking them to listen to your needs and to do the work necessary to meet them is not refusing to forgive them. It is what authentic forgiveness and healing requires.”

Julie’s mother-in-law was missing all three things in her apology to Julie; she had offered the form of an apology without any of its substance.

“When a person isn’t capable of doing those three things as part of an apology, that means that they’re not really accepting responsibility, and you can’t trust them to not do it again,” Dr. Popcak explained.

Reconciliation Requires Hard Work from Both People

The work of achieving reconciliation isn’t only the responsibility of the person who caused the offense, though. When we set healthy boundaries with people who have hurt us, our Christian faith requires that we also provide them with a clear way forward.

In Julie’s case, the Popcaks’ advice was to sit down and talk with her husband about what that way forward would look like for his mother. “Talk together about, ‘What would we need to see from your mom to relax this boundary and to know that she’s safe to be around us and our kids?’” That sense of safety includes emotional, not just physical, safety.

This not only helps the offending person know what they need to do to restore the relationship; it also helps the person who has been hurt to objectively evaluate whether that work has been done.

“You can ask yourself, ‘Well, has she done the things that we asked her to do to let those boundaries down?’” Dr. Popcak said. “And you can answer yes or no. And then you make your decision based on an objective criteria, not just how you feel about it.”

The Three Steps of a Real Apology

If someone hasn’t accepted your apology — or you sense that what you’ve offered hasn’t truly landed — here are three ways to move toward the kind of accountability that actually opens doors.

  1. Name the specific harm you caused. Vague apologies (“I’m sorry for everything”) signal that you haven’t really reckoned with what happened. Before you approach someone, ask yourself: Can I name exactly what I did wrong? Can I describe how it hurt them? If not, more reflection is needed first.
  2. Accept what they need without arguing about it. Once you’ve acknowledged the harm, the other person’s response belongs to them. They may need more time than you’d like. They may not be ready to reconcile at all. Accepting that without pressure or manipulation is itself an act of love.
  3. Work out a clear path forward. When the other person is ready to reconcile, work with them to name exactly what needs to happen to repair the harm you caused in the relationship.

Then it’s all about following through. The first three steps are the key that opens the door that has closed between you and the other person; this key allows the possibility of reconciliation. But it is consistent, changed behavior over time that makes it real.

Let God’s Grace In

Knowing these basic elements of real reconciliation provides a road map forward. Of course, when the wounds cut deep, moving through these steps can still be very difficult on both sides. Prayer, Lisa said, is essential to help us do what we can’t otherwise do on our own.

“Involving the Holy Spirit in this really matters,” Lisa said. ”We can’t white-knuckle our way through forgiveness or even come up with a plan without the grace of the Holy Spirit being invited into the situation.”

Real reconciliation can’t be forced or rushed. It grows from genuine accountability, patience, and grace.

“Asking for and receiving forgiveness,” Dr. Greg said, “is just the first step on the road back from hurts.”

If you need extra help with the challenges of giving and receiving forgiveness, reach out to the pastoral counselors at CatholicCounselors.com.

Forgiveness Doesn’t Always Mean Reconciliation

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Kara hadn’t had contact with her abusive father for years — an intentional decision she felt was necessary for her safety and healing.

Recently, though, her father reached out, asking to reconnect.

“I’m honestly afraid to let him back into my life,” she wrote in a note to the More2Life radio show hosted by Dr. Greg and Lisa Popcak. “I don’t trust him, and I worry about exposing my children to someone who hurt me so deeply.

“When I told him no, he accused me of being unforgiving and unchristian. That really shook me. I believe in forgiveness, but I don’t know if forgiveness means putting myself or my family back in harm’s way. How do I forgive without pretending the past didn’t happen, and how do I honor God without ignoring my own boundaries?”

Kara isn’t alone in her dilemma; many faithful Christians face situations like hers: An ex-spouse who caused serious harm pushes for restored contact. A family member who has never acknowledged the damage they caused demands to be welcomed back in. Remembering Jesus’ command to forgive (even repeatedly), some people may feel pressured to restore a harmful relationship — or, alternatively, might feel guilty for saying “no.”

The key to situations like this, the Popcaks said, is to understand the difference between forgiveness and reconciliation.

Forgiveness vs. Reconciliation

As Christians, we are called to lean into God’s abundant mercy and forgiveness, and then share that same mercy and forgiveness with one another, Dr. Popcak explained.

“But it’s important to understand what that really means,” Lisa Popcak added. “Forgiveness does not require us to pretend that an offense never happened or that things are better than they actually are.”

Instead, forgiveness means wanting to give up the desire to hurt somebody for having hurt you, Dr. Popcak said. It means getting to the place where you can genuinely wish the other person well — even when you don’t feel like it.

Reconciliation is a different matter entirely.

“Reconciliation means that the person who hurt you has done the work necessary to be safe to be around and build a relationship with,” Dr. Popcak explained.

Forgiveness is something you can give unilaterally, in your own heart, regardless of what the other person does. Reconciliation requires something from both sides — most importantly, genuine accountability from the one who caused the harm.

Kara had forgiven her father. That didn’t mean she was obligated to hand him access to her family.

Dr. Popcak pointed to something telling in Kara’s situation: her father’s response when she said no.

“If he was safe to be around, his response would have been, ‘I totally get that, and it breaks my heart that you feel that way, and I hope that someday you might feel differently, but I respect your boundary and I understand where you’re coming from based on the way that I’ve hurt you,'” Dr. Popcak said. “His calling you unchristian and unforgiving and trying to manipulate you into having a relationship speaks to how unsafe he still is.”

Maintaining the safe boundary with her father may have felt uncomfortable for Kara. However, as the Popcaks pointed out, that decision was actually a loving response to the situation.

For one thing, keeping her father at a distance until he is able to handle the relationship safely and responsibly is charitable toward him because it helps him avoid a near occasion of sin — a situation that predictably brings out the worst in us. For example, an alcoholic doesn’t put himself in a bar, and someone who loves an alcoholic doesn’t invite him into one either.

And as Lisa pointed out, Kara’s decision to keep a safe boundary between her father and her children was both appropriate and also a very real expression of love.

Sometimes working for the good of the other makes us feel uncomfortable. But in the end, the true measure of love isn’t how it makes us feel, but whether it truly seeks the best outcome for the other, and all involved — in this case, safety for herself and her kids, and real healing for her father.

Are We Ready to Reconcile? 3 Questions to Ask

If someone from your past is pushing for restored contact, the Popcaks’ framework suggests three honest questions worth sitting with before you respond.

1. Have they acknowledged the harm they caused?

Not a vague “I’m sorry if you were hurt” — but a clear, specific acknowledgment of what they did and how it affected you. A person who cannot name their offense is not in a position to repair it. Accountability is the foundation of reconciliation, and without it, the same patterns are likely to repeat.

2. How did they respond when you said no?

This is often the clearest signal available. A person who responds to your limits with guilt-tripping, pressure, or spiritual manipulation is showing you exactly where they still are. Let the response speak for itself.

3. Are you both strong enough?

Reconciliation isn’t just about whether you can handle it. Inviting someone into a situation they’re not equipped to handle isn’t mercy — it’s setting everyone up to fail.

Even a Closed Door Can Have a Key

As the Popcaks frequently remind, setting and maintaining healthy boundaries does not necessarily mean cutting off all possibility of a relationship. A healthy boundary is like a door that needs to be closed when a situation is not safe or healthy.

But at the same time, you are closing the door on that part of your relationship, you can also give the other person a key, a set of conditions that need to be met before true reconciliation is possible.

Dr. Popcak offered Kara a possible response to her father. Notice how it maintains a healthy boundary while also providing a key that her father can use, if he chooses: “The fact that rather than hearing what I was trying to say to you and responding with sensitivity, you tried to manipulate me and push your way into my life — that says to me that nothing’s changed,” Dr. Popcak suggested. “Until you can really accept responsibility for what you did and acknowledge the pain you’ve caused, it wouldn’t make sense for me to have you in my life. I will continue to pray for you, and I hope that someday you can hear this.”

That is a statement of genuine forgiveness. It wishes the other person healing. It provides the  key to a restored relationship. And it holds a clear line — not out of bitterness, but out of honesty about where things actually stand.

For more help thinking through a difficult relationship, check out Dr. Greg Popcak’s book God Help Me! These People Are Driving Me Nuts! Making Peace With Difficult People. And for one-on-one support, reach out to a pastoral counselor at CatholicCounselors.com.

Nice Isn’t Enough: Why Fawning Enables Bad Behavior

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For two decades, Kelly and her family have tiptoed around her sister’s difficult personality and inconsiderate behavior, hoping to avoid setting her off. Eventually, the family began holding get-togethers without telling her.

“I feel so bad because I know she notices,” Kelly shared during a recent episode of More2Life with Dr. Greg and Lisa Popcak. “But she has literally ruined holidays and family parties with her behavior.”

Her question for the Popcaks: Was it okay to keep excluding her difficult sister, or was there a better approach?

Many of us find ourselves in similar positions, whether it is with a sibling, a spouse, or even a child who has “big feelings” that seem to dictate the climate of the entire home. We tell ourselves that by being “nice,” we are being Christian. After all, isn’t one of the spiritual works of mercy bearing wrongs patiently?

But according to the Popcaks, this approach isn’t just ineffective—it’s actually making things worse.

The Fawning Response

You’ve probably heard of fight, flight, or freeze—the brain’s automatic responses to perceived threats. But there’s a fourth response that often masquerades as kindness: fawning.

“When we fawn, what we do is we placate people because we’re afraid of getting in trouble,” Dr. Popcak said. “There are a lot of people who, when we feel threatened, fawn. We say what we feel like we need to say to get the other person to just leave us alone or not rile them up.”

But that tiptoeing, that strategic niceness, that careful management of a difficult person’s emotions—it’s not love, but fear wearing love’s clothing. Fawning doesn’t just enable bad behavior—it actively feeds it.

“The more that difficult person is fawned over, the more they feel empowered, the more they feel like they’re being given permission to be their worst selves,” Lisa Popcak explained. “Fawning…actually makes matters worse for us and for them and their own souls.”

Practicing Fortitude in the Service of Love

This is where Catholic teaching offers clarity, Lisa Popcak said. When we’re in relationship with someone, we’re called to work for three goods simultaneously: our own good, the good of the relationship, and the good of the other person. Enabling someone’s worst behavior serves none of these.

In his book, Love and Responsibility, St. John Paul II offers a different vision. Christians aren’t called to mere niceness, but to authentic love, which means challenging every person, ourselves included, to become their best self.

“More than simply being nice, Christians are really called to exhibit fortitude in the service of love,” Dr. Popcak said. This means “being willing to lovingly address issues that other people might rather ignore, to insist that problems be handled even when it’s uncomfortable, and to persistently but kindly call each other to behave in a manner that reflects our dignity as sons and daughters of God.”

This requires reframing the way we think about interacting with the difficult person, Lisa Popcak said: “This means shifting our mindset from ‘how can I get through this situation without making a fuss or ruffling feathers or causing problems’ to prayerfully asking, ‘Lord, teach me to address this situation in a way that’s charitable, loving, and effective.’ ”

3 Ways to Move from Fawning to Fortitude

The next time you catch yourself fawning in order to avoid an uncomfortable confrontation, keep these tips in mind.

1. Set clear expectations with consequences

Loving someone doesn’t mean tolerating everything they do. When someone’s behavior is consistently hurtful, genuine charity requires honesty.

As Dr. Popcak puts it, you can say something like: “I love you, but you can’t speak to us this way. When you’re ready to calm down and speak to us appropriately, you can come back and we’ll hear what you have to say.”

This isn’t harsh—it’s the same boundary you’d set with a child who was speaking inappropriately. It treats the person as capable of better, which is far more respectful than tiptoeing around them.

2. Use the ‘broken record’ technique

When someone responds to your boundary with defensiveness or escalation, don’t take the bait. Dr. Popcak recommends a simple, repeatable response: “I understand that you’re upset. I’m sorry you feel that way. I’d be happy to talk to you about it if you’re able to be respectful with me. But until you can get to that place, I can’t have this conversation with you.”

Repeat as needed.

3. Limit contact to situations the person can handle

Sometimes the most loving thing you can do is not invite someone into situations they consistently fail at. This isn’t punishment—it’s protecting them a near occasion of sin.

Dr. Popcak suggested saying something like: “If I invite you into this situation, you’re going to lose it…and people are going to think less of you. It’s going to bring out the worst in you. It’s going to bring out the worst in me. So I don’t want to set us up to fail.”

This approach requires first communicating clearly what would need to change for fuller inclusion—and accepting when someone exercises their God-given free will to take another path.

Cast Out Fear, Embrace Freedom

Remember Kelly, the woman whose family no longer invited her difficult sister to family gatherings?

Greg and Lisa Popcak advised Kelly that her current approach of excluding her sister without clear communication was actually a form of fawning. Instead, they suggested that Kelly clearly communicate that while she desires a relationship with her sister, that can’t happen as long as she persists in her hurtful and disrespectful behaviors at family gatherings. Following up with clearly communicated expectations of what needs to change for the relationship to work leaves the door open to restoring the relationship, while shifting the choice of whether to participate in family gatherings to the sister.

This is true charity, a love that aims to liberate both parties from hurt and harm.

“This is another example of how perfect love casts out fear,” Dr. Popcak said. “God is calling us to a place where we can step out of that fear and that fawning response to act in genuine love, where we can be our best selves and lovingly challenge the people around us to be their best, too.”

For a deeper dive into this topic, check out Dr. Popcak’s book, God Help Me! These People Are Driving Me Nuts! Making Peace With Difficult People. And for more personalized help developing the confidence and skills to handle difficult relationships with both charity and effectiveness, reach out to the pastoral counselors at CatholicCounselors.com.

Want a Stronger Relationship? Try ‘Love Lists’

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Once upon a time, an engaged couple came to their pastoral counselor with a problem: Each said the other wasn’t showing them any love. At the same time, each protested that they expressed love for the other all the time.

“Je lui montre mon amour tout le temps!” the woman said.

“Jag visar henne min kärlek hela tiden!” the man said.

“I think I see the problem,” the pastoral counselor said. “One of you speaks French and the other speaks Swedish. Have you ever tried saying ‘I love you’ in the other person’s language?”

While this little fable is fictional, Rachael Isaac encounters couples struggling with a similar problem all the time.

“A lot of couples I work with will say, ‘Well, my love language is physical affection, so that’s how I’m loving you,’” says Isaac, a pastoral counselor at CatholicCounselors.com. “But the other person is like, ‘Yeah, but my love language is acts of service… and I don’t feel loved by you.’”

The popular concept of “love languages” says that people have a preferred way of expressing and receiving affection—things like words of affirmation, quality time, acts of service, physical touch, and gift‑giving. The idea is that everyone tends to “speak” one or two of these more fluently, and relationships feel stronger when partners understand and respond to each other’s preferred styles.

The problem is that we often give what we most want to receive. If our preferred way of expressing love is to perform acts of service, we might focus on cleaning out the garage, taking out the garbage, washing up the dishes, or doing the bills. But if physical affection is what makes the other person feel most cared for, they may not “hear” our expressions of love and care.

“We get stuck in our own comfort zone,” Rachael says. “I’m telling you ‘I love you’ in the way that’s comfortable for me, but telling you ‘I love you’ in that way that you’re asking me to—that’s not comfortable for me, so I don’t want to do that.”

Step Out of Your Comfort Zone!

Miscommunication, friction, and conflict are inevitable in any human relationship. But in the Catholic theology of marriage, friction and conflict isn’t necessarily bad. In fact, it is an opportunity for each spouse to grow in holiness, to become more fully the person God made them to be.

Someone who wasn’t raised with a lot of physical affection might feel deeply uncomfortable expressing it. Similarly, someone who isn’t used to expressing lots of words of affirmation might balk at the invitation to go there.

But the choice to step out of our comfort zone in order to show love and care for our spouse is a profound and very real act of love. Moreover, when we step out of our comfort zone in this way, we nurture the parts of ourselves that might be underdeveloped.

“If I make that conscious effort to get out of my comfort zone and lean into that other person’s needs, that helps me become more of the whole person that God created me to be,” Rachael says.

‘Love Lists’ Help Couples Learn How to Care for One Another

When she works with couples who struggle to hear one another’s love languages, Rachael often suggests a simple exercise that she calls “Love Lists.” This exercise, which comes from Dr. Greg and Lisa Popcak’s book For Better…FOREVER! A Catholic Guide to Lifelong Marriage, asks each spouse to create a list of specific ways their partner could make them feel loved.

Here’s how it works:

1. Create a list of what makes you feel loved

Start by writing down up to twenty specific actions, words, or gestures that would make you feel genuinely loved and appreciated. Invite your spouse to do the same, writing down specific actions, words, or gestures that you can do to make them feel loved and cared for.

Be concrete. Instead of “spend time with me,” try “take a twenty-minute walk with me after dinner” or “sit next to me on the couch while we watch a show together.” The goal is specificity—things your spouse can actually do, not vague feelings they should conjure.

Many people struggle with this step, Rachael says, because they lack self-awareness about what makes them feel loved. If that’s you, then start with seven items on your list. You and your spouse can build out your lists as time goes on.

2. Practice daily

Once you’ve both completed your lists, swap them. If you like, you can post them somewhere that will offer a visual reminder.

Now comes the practical part: each spouse commits to doing one item from their partner’s list every single day. “Both spouses are making that conscious effort to learn each other’s language, to speak each other’s language,” Rachael says.

It’s okay if things don’t turn out perfectly every day. The important thing is for each person to make a real effort.

3. Every day, share when you felt loved

At the end of the day, take a few minutes to connect. Rachael suggests asking two specific questions:

  • “What was a moment today where I felt most loved or connected?”
  •  “What is one thing I can do for you tomorrow that would make your day a little easier?”

This daily review keeps the conversation ongoing and prevents the list from becoming a stagnant “chore chart.” It creates a feedback loop—you learn what resonates most deeply with your spouse, and they learn the same about you. Over time, you become fluent in each other’s love languages.

From Resentment to Empowerment

Couples who follow through with this activity often report a shift from frustration to a feeling of empowerment, Rachael says: communicating your needs to one another is the first step toward having a closer, richer relationship.

This exercise can also build your own self-awareness. Many people don’t actually know what makes them feel loved until they are forced to write it down, Rachael says. By identifying those needs and learning to meet the needs of their spouse, both people grow in virtue.

“You’re not only building up your marriage,” she says, “but you’re also becoming more of the person God made you to be.”

If you and your spouse are struggling to connect or if you simply want to take your relationship to the next level, start your love lists today. For more personalized support in strengthening your marriage, reach out to Rachael Isaac and the team of professional pastoral counselors at CatholicCounselors.com.